Any Fans of The Jam?

verbal gymnastics · Post by **verbal gymnastics** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:37 am

I used to be (and remain) a massive fan of The Jam and amassed around 70 live tapes of them during their career.

Unfortunately the time has come where, due to spring cleaning and storage space, I must either sell them or give them away.
I have decided to give them away to anybody who's interested.

If you are interested PM me. The tapes scan from 1977 to 1982. If there are any particular shows or tours you are after let me know as I might have it. I have no idea if there'll be any demand so don't feel shy about asking for more than one but I'll make a limit of 4 per person. If there are any left over then I'll let you know.

There will be future giveaways when I've sorted things out further.

Cheers
VG

Mr. Average · Post by **Mr. Average** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:44 am

I became a Jam fan with "All Mod Cons", about the same time I discovered the Green Clash album. I think that Paul Weller was able to make his voice intonate the essence of power pop and punk better than anyone else at the time, including Mr. Rotten. Its the sound that Eddie Vedder always wished he could come to, but never has.

Settings sons was nice. But the strongest overall record was Sound Affects, with the opening chords to SNAP reminiscent of the Beatles Taxman.

I followed Paul Weller through the Style COuncil ( abrave move indeed, whether you appreciate it or not) and into his solo years. I love the record called Wildwood, and the self titled "Paul Weller".

verbal gymnastics · Post by **verbal gymnastics** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:02 am

Mr A - is that a yes or a no for tapes then? PM me if the answer is yes!

Post by **BlueChair** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:15 am

All I have is 'All Mod Cons', which I enjoy.

Otis Westinghouse · Post by **Otis Westinghouse** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:03 pm

They were brilliant. My second gig, after EC. Sound Affects tour. Am saving up for the awesome Reaction, Creation, Direction box set, which contains everything and then some. PM coming up...

crash8_durham · Post by **crash8_durham** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:12 pm

I used to do 2 of the songs off all mod cons in a high school garage band.

To Be Someone and one that went , all we seem to do is talk about it....
dont remember the title to that one.....wish i still had that album

Otis Westinghouse · Post by **Otis Westinghouse** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:18 pm

You must buy it tomorrow (actually, I don't have it, only in my head).

The other song was the totally immortal It's Too Bad:

All we seem to do is talk about it
we always end up shouting about it
there was a time we could overcome it
But it's too late to say we'll just forget it
It's too bad that we had to break up
and too much said for us to every make up
I could get by if I could just forget you
but things remind me and I feel so sad now

I could say I'm sorry
but it's not the point is it?
you want to play your games and
you don't mind if I get hurt

Same old feeling everytime I see you
and every avenue I walk I'm behind you
your back is turned and your eyes are closed girl
you move in circles that are out of my reach now

Simple but lovely. To Be Someone is a classic too, but not sung by Noel Galagher, thank you. Weller could vie with EC for syllables per line. 'Now there's no more swimming in a guitar-shaped pool', for example.

Tim(e) · Post by **Tim(e)** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:19 pm

Love the Jam!! "Down in the Tube Station at Midnight" is still one of my all time favourite songs (along with the Only Ones' "Another Girl Another Planet" and the Clash's "Tommy Gun" approximately from that same period).

For those into DVD, there is The Complete Jam which is a superb collection spread over two discs covering the period from 1977 through to 1982. If you are a fan, I cannot recommend it highly enough.

bobster · Post by **bobster** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:30 am

The Jam's "That's Entertainment" is a bit of a personal anthem of mine.

I actually like it better, a whole better, than that other "That's Entertainment" song, even if it is in one of my all time favorite movies, "The Bandwagon."

Jackson Monk · Post by **Jackson Monk** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:28 am

The Jam were the only band that ever came close to EC &A for me when I was a wee lad. All Mod Cons and Setting Sons are in my top 20 ever and they actually made singles that weren't on albums!!....(with great b-sides)

Otis Westinghouse · Post by **Otis Westinghouse** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:50 am

Absolutely, Butterfly Collector, for example. That vein of form from AMC to SS with Strange Town and When You're young in between is stunning. Weller could do no wrong.

Tube Station was a landmark single for me too (I loved Tommy Gun when it was out, but the other single I had in heavy rotation was Ever Fallen In Love, Another Girl, Another Planet I didn't hear till a few years later, but agree it's an all-time classic). And the cover of The Who's So Sad About Us on the b-side is just perfect, an improvement on the original, I'd say. I've seen that DVD in the shops, another one for the shopping list.

martinfoyle · Post by **martinfoyle** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:48 am

The When You're Young/Smithers Jones single was their most complete musical statement, imo.

verbal gymnastics · Post by **verbal gymnastics** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:42 am

Great single.

From the opening "wo oh ho" to the ending "Over the country the lights are going out, in millions of homes and thousands of flats, going out going out etc".

Great song.

I've had quite a few responses but don't feel shy!

crash8_durham · Post by **crash8_durham** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:55 pm

Is all mod cons out of print on cd ?

martinfoyle · Post by **martinfoyle** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:40 pm

crash8_durham wrote:Is all mod cons out of print on cd ?

No
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/searc ... 43-2680656

bambooneedle · Post by **bambooneedle** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:36 am

I definitely intend to get some The Jam albums after getting their Greatest Hits. That DVD collection sounds like an ideal introduction.

girl out of time · Post by **girl out of time** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:06 pm

......the bitterest pill my favourite jam song ever!!!!!!!

Jackson Monk · Post by **Jackson Monk** » Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:59 pm

'acceptance into the capital world
u pull on some weed and u pull on someone when you're young....'

It's so sad that the States missed out on The Jam.

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:23 am

Boardwide thanks to Verbal. Now listening to a 1979 gig of pretty good quality. You're a star.

Otis Westinghouse · Post by **Otis Westinghouse** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:23 pm

I second that emotion. (In anticipation of the above!)

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:16 pm

A fan since '79 -

As an American in England, it's impossible for me to see a sign for Slough and not think of the line from "Eton Rifles" or not to sing "...I know I come from Woking and you say I'm a fraud..." when changing for the railair express.

Now - I think I know where Selsey Bill is (near Chichester?) - but where is Bracklesham Bay?

and Carnaby Street is probably even less what it used to be (not sure that sentence makes sense - but you know what I mean) -

Burning Sky and Liza Radley are a couple of the lesser talked about songs that I love.

martinfoyle · Post by **martinfoyle** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:25 pm

- but where is Bracklesham Bay?

View East at Bracklesham Bay (West Sussex)

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:28 pm

Tank you berry much

Otis Westinghouse · Post by **Otis Westinghouse** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:31 am

Groynes and shingle, nothing like it.

Burning Sky is fabulous. Really great songwriting. Setting Sons was a great LP. The loose concept was a bit odd or corny, but what the hell. They sound like Thierry Henry played last night, totally at the top of their game. Private Hell, Little Boy Soldiers, the above, Eton Rifles, all supremely listenable. And for me Meet Me On The Wasteland (Paul was clearly getting into TS Eliot by this point) was just so touching and lovely.

Liza Radley I just cant remember. Where does it feature in the discography? Is it a b-side? The title is familiar, nothing else.

Jackson Monk · Post by **Jackson Monk** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:57 am

Otis

Liza Radley was the b-side of 'Start' . It's well worth a listen. I always think of it as Weller's 'Eleanor Rigby':

Liza Radley - see the girl with long hair
See her creeping 'cross summer lawns at midnight
And all the people in the town where we live say
"She's not quite right"
But she don't fit in with a small town

They just can't understand why she's got to be free
And for their lives only, she cries

Liza Radley - see her jump through loneliness
Liza Radley - take me when you go

And all the people in the town where we live say
"She's not quite right"
But she don't fit in with a small town

They just can't understand why she's got to be free
And for their lives only, she cries

Liza Radley - I pledge myself to you alone
Then she kissed my face and says "love means nothing at all"
She kiss my face and says "Life means nothing at all"