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Re: Nature
I'm very intrigued, Rope. I'm open to all ideas, but I'm sorry to say that a lot of the time, I'm all over the place. I consider all points of view....and question and question......and then sometimes, somewhere along the way, I will be awakened to a different way of looking at something.A rope leash wrote: Tell me, Sweet, has you're mind changed at all?
So what do ya think....you gonna try and teach me a few things?
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- Otis Westinghouse
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It ain't Jesus and it ain't Polonius. I can't find a source, but it does pop up in places like the following:
http://www.liashapiro.com/LIA_S_ARTICLE ... it_be.html
And there were other refs to it being a talk title. So it seems to be current on the spiritual self-help circuit, as a piece of cod-philosophy that figures, but it would be interesting to know if it has an identifiable origin.
http://www.liashapiro.com/LIA_S_ARTICLE ... it_be.html
And there were other refs to it being a talk title. So it seems to be current on the spiritual self-help circuit, as a piece of cod-philosophy that figures, but it would be interesting to know if it has an identifiable origin.
- sulkygirl
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Found this while I was trying (unsuccessfully) to find the origin of that line...thought it would be an appropriate addition to the thread:
Topic: CAMPAIGN 98
Trees XV
Bay Buchanan
Joy Skilmer
I think that I shall never see
A party like the GOP,
A party that has leaders none,
That hasn't hardly one thing done,
A party filled with cowards still,
Most of them afraid of Bill,
That while it claims to stand for right
Walks miles to avoid a fight.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But God must help the GOP.
Topic: CAMPAIGN 98
Trees XV
Bay Buchanan
Joy Skilmer
I think that I shall never see
A party like the GOP,
A party that has leaders none,
That hasn't hardly one thing done,
A party filled with cowards still,
Most of them afraid of Bill,
That while it claims to stand for right
Walks miles to avoid a fight.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But God must help the GOP.
"Love can be stranger than fiction..."
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"The greatest discovery of our generation is that human beings can alter their lives by altering their attitudes of mind. As you think, so shall you be."
--William James, Father of American Psychology
Not very spiritual but rather psychological.
Sulkygirl! I love Joyce Kilmer, poor little poem defaced so regularly. Sigh!
--William James, Father of American Psychology
Not very spiritual but rather psychological.
Sulkygirl! I love Joyce Kilmer, poor little poem defaced so regularly. Sigh!
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Thanks to those who looked up that phrase, and to Noise. I put it into google with JC and it came up often as well, such as here: http://sageplace.com/Amb_Auth.htm
So, regardless, I'm to understand that JC was essentially different, then...?
I was interested to see if anyone thought it could be reconciled with something like the Buddha's teachings, whereby he states that anyone can realize "Buddha consciousness", or nirvana -- which ordinary consciousness already is, in a sense*, they teach. Once you really realize it though, you stop looking for it, and that is when people might say they've "become enlightened". The possible correlation would be "Christ consciousness", and I suppose the way noise described that Jesus "didn't grasp". However, the Buddha always let it be known that he was just an ordinary man (not to be looked upon or worshiped as a God, etc).
No doubt even among people who identify themselves as Christians there's disagreement, regarding my original line of thought. The philosopher/writer Alan Watts was of the mind that JC's and many other teachings can be reconciled in many ways, including in that sense. And it is what I intuit as well -- that simple common sense things have been complicated and severely misconstrued. That's why, at least for that reason, I'd never try to identify as being part of one or another teaching/religion etc (especially when among the same one they can't agree), though I might still find value in them.
*It's complicated, yet it's simple. But you might look into it.
So, regardless, I'm to understand that JC was essentially different, then...?
I was interested to see if anyone thought it could be reconciled with something like the Buddha's teachings, whereby he states that anyone can realize "Buddha consciousness", or nirvana -- which ordinary consciousness already is, in a sense*, they teach. Once you really realize it though, you stop looking for it, and that is when people might say they've "become enlightened". The possible correlation would be "Christ consciousness", and I suppose the way noise described that Jesus "didn't grasp". However, the Buddha always let it be known that he was just an ordinary man (not to be looked upon or worshiped as a God, etc).
No doubt even among people who identify themselves as Christians there's disagreement, regarding my original line of thought. The philosopher/writer Alan Watts was of the mind that JC's and many other teachings can be reconciled in many ways, including in that sense. And it is what I intuit as well -- that simple common sense things have been complicated and severely misconstrued. That's why, at least for that reason, I'd never try to identify as being part of one or another teaching/religion etc (especially when among the same one they can't agree), though I might still find value in them.
*It's complicated, yet it's simple. But you might look into it.
- A rope leash
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Jesus
Hey guys, greetings from Indy. I'm just hooked up for a minute.
I've always said Jesus was cool until he got into the "savuior" biz.
Here's something you might find interesting:
http://www.ffrf.org/pennstation/jesus.html
See ya!
I've always said Jesus was cool until he got into the "savuior" biz.
Here's something you might find interesting:
http://www.ffrf.org/pennstation/jesus.html
See ya!